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Old 14-02-12, 12:23 AM
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it's most likely 13 ("Babi Yar")
Of course, #13! Now that is one dark work with the brooding poetry of Yevtushenko set for bass solo and bass chorus! Can't get darker than that

1st movement is my fav. This is a fab recording I just found - smooth - I like this piece smooth - the brass are perfect, allowing the harmony to be clear and lead the rhythm. and the bass is detailed and intense. almost like a cooing lullaby, except hideously dark and terrifying about a really ugly part of Russia's past - Babi Yar. The section at 7:26 min is terrifying, then following at 10:23, is some of the most emotive music he ever penned.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOmfN...eature=related

BABI YAR

By Yevgeni Yevtushenko
Translated by Benjamin Okopnik, 10/96

No monument stands over Babi Yar.
A steep cliff only, like the rudest headstone.
I am afraid.
Today, I am as old
As the entire Jewish race itself.

I see myself an ancient Israelite.
I wander o'er the roads of ancient Egypt
And here, upon the cross, I perish, tortured
And even now, I bear the marks of nails.

It seems to me that Dreyfus is myself. *1*
The Philistines betrayed me - and now judge.
I'm in a cage. Surrounded and trapped,
I'm persecuted, spat on, slandered, and
The dainty dollies in their Brussels frills
Squeal, as they stab umbrellas at my face.

I see myself a boy in Belostok *2*
Blood spills, and runs upon the floors,
The chiefs of bar and pub rage unimpeded
And reek of vodka and of onion, half and half.

I'm thrown back by a boot, I have no strength left,
In vain I beg the rabble of pogrom,
To jeers of "Kill the Jews, and save our Russia!"
My mother's being beaten by a clerk.

O, Russia of my heart, I know that you
Are international, by inner nature.
But often those whose hands are steeped in filth
Abused your purest name, in name of hatred.

I know the kindness of my native land.
How vile, that without the slightest quiver
The antisemites have proclaimed themselves
The "Union of the Russian People!"

It seems to me that I am Anna Frank,
Transparent, as the thinnest branch in April,
And I'm in love, and have no need of phrases,
But only that we gaze into each other's eyes.
How little one can see, or even sense!
Leaves are forbidden, so is sky,
But much is still allowed - very gently
In darkened rooms each other to embrace.

-"They come!"

-"No, fear not - those are sounds
Of spring itself. She's coming soon.
Quickly, your lips!"

-"They break the door!"

-"No, river ice is breaking..."

Wild grasses rustle over Babi Yar,
The trees look sternly, as if passing judgement.
Here, silently, all screams, and, hat in hand,
I feel my hair changing shade to gray.

And I myself, like one long soundless scream
Above the thousands of thousands interred,
I'm every old man executed here,
As I am every child murdered here.

No fiber of my body will forget this.
May "Internationale" thunder and ring *3*
When, for all time, is buried and forgotten
The last of antisemites on this earth.

There is no Jewish blood that's blood of mine,
But, hated with a passion that's corrosive
Am I by antisemites like a Jew.
And that is why I call myself a Russian!
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I'll agree with Roehre above on Shostakovich's Symphonies No. 2
and No. 3. But by the No. 13th, i think Shostakovich had lost a
lot of his mojo - if you know what i mean.
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Dark stuff, eh? Ok, let me see.

Berlioz: Symphonie fantastique.
Mahler: Kindertotenlieder (Songs on the deaths of children).
Strauss: Metamorphosen (Klemperer recording).
Shostakovich: Symphonies 7, 8, 10, 11, 12, 15 and String Quartet 15.
Allan Pettersson: almost anything.
George Crumb: Black Angels, for electronically enhanced string quartet.
Messiaen: Quartet for the End of Time, a work Messiaen wrote while an inmate in a Nazi concentration camp.
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However, I still find the requiems the darkest and most powerful ones.
Hello Joćo, and welcome.

My 2 cents: When I was much younger (when recordings were marketed in vinyl format), I, like yourself, gravitated to the Requiems and amassed quite a collection of them....some not so very well known.

Of course, the very nature of the setting (especially the Dies Irae) is intended to frighten; it was the way in which the church kept its congregants 'in line' (so to speak).

But for myself in the year 2012, when I want Dark, Desolate, Depressing, I most often eschew the choral aspect and find myself turning (as others here have already mentioned) to the symphonies of Shostakovich. Currently, No. 8, for me, offers the most satisfying blend of Rage (both suppressed and overt) and Resignation. I listen to it often.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oe5Mh0ubZl0

I should also mention Mahler7, which vies with 6 (and wins over it, imo), for the darkest of his symphonies. Here is the brilliant third movement - Scherzo: Schattenhaft. It should be noted that Mahler achieves Dark Power without the use of massed choral voices:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWRv4lSyR5U
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I too thought of Shostakovich for this. When an acquaintance of mine killed himself in high school, I turned to the passacaglia from the first violin concerto. Dark and powerful music.
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Dark music - I always think of Liszt's two La Lugubre Gondola or Nuages Gris.

I could think of others but I'm about to be kicked off this computer.
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I like disturbing sounding music (but the music of course is indifferent
to itself), and i'll agree with James CF above on Shostakovich's
Eighth - it has many dark moments. But especially toward the
end of the first movement of the 8th is particularly powerful and
disturbing music- it may be on that Spotify site - i'll have to check.
At any rate, it is one of Shostakovich's best symphonies, and
well worth to get, if you dont have it.
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One of my brothers (when he was 7) had a thing for creepy music, so I had to do a bit of thinking to find scary pieces. Many of them have already been mentioned. I don't know Babi Yar, but Shostakoivich's eighth is quite dark (the symphony, and the quartet).

Another name that comes to mind is Szymanowski. He wrote a lot of rather eerie music, but I think his second string quartet and third symphony are the must frightening things I've heard by him.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y20fg3uS9iI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1yW8Ynlx7k
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I actually haven't listened to it in a while, but I remember thinking for a long time that Mozart's string quintet in G minor -- K. 516 -- was one of the very darkest pieces I had ever heard.
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