Schoenberg - Moses und Aron

[Despina41]

Originally Posted by Quijote

But it is good to know now that many of Balthazar's (and yours too, Despina41) postings are to be read in that restrictive context you mention. I cannot possibly imagine living and working under such constraints.

I would be surprised to hear that Europe has no "classics-only" musical conservatives/dilettantes who can't stand atonal music and anything after...

[Quijote]

Originally Posted by Despina41

I would be surprised to hear that Europe has no "classics-only" musical conservatives/dilettantes who can't stand atonal music and anything after...

Evidently. I understood you to mean that 'anti-arnoldism' was particularly prevalent in the concert-going milieu in the USA, more so than in Europe. What I wish to say is that there are many contemporary music festivals in Europe, and Schoenberg is no stranger there.

[Balthazar]

Originally Posted by Despina41

the anti-Arnold phenomenon that Balthazar mentions

For a long time I believed Schoenberg's middle name was "anti-music."

[Quijote]

Originally Posted by Quijote

Evidently. I understood you to mean that 'anti-arnoldism' was particularly prevalent in the concert-going milieu in the USA, more so than in Europe. What I wish to say is that there are many contemporary music festivals in Europe, and Schoenberg is no stranger there.

To quote myself, here's a link to a contemporary music festival in Strasbourg I shall be attending. And the opening concert on September 21st? Check it out for yourselves.
http://www.festivalmusica.org/programme

[Balthazar]

The Musikfest Berlin is doing Moses und Aron next month. The Fest admits that the three works they're performing (Cage and Gershwin are also on the program) are "opera rarities."

[D. Bucklige]

Many years ago, I told myself that I would know the end was near when I began to appreciate and enjoy MundA. Not a value judgment on the tastes of others; more or less an admission of personal defeat at the hands of Arnold.

I can do Gurrelieder.....(and that quite well), Berg's Lulu and even the occasional Adès effort; but the biblical Schoenberg scares me mightily still. I suppose that means I have a few years left to me.

[myaskovsky2002]

I listened to it many many years ago... Let's say...thirty....
I like this opera, what I find heavy is the mass choral stuff... Like Gregorian chant a bit. Schönberg and his disciple, Egon Wellesz had studied deeply this kind of old music... The result is kind of boring... This is too long... we "need" this ballet a bit less dodecaphonic in order to better appreciate ths music, if any.




Martin

[Balthazar]

Originally Posted by myaskovsky2002

we "need" this ballet a bit less dodecaphonic in order to better appreciate ths music, if any.

So if it were less like Moses und Aron, you'd appreciate it more? That's fair.