A/H1N1 Swine Flu

[haydnguy]

Isnt' that the truth!

[haydnguy]

WHO: Swine flu moving toward pandemic level


The World Health Organization warned Wednesday that the swine flu outbreak is moving closer to becoming a pandemic, as the United States reported the first swine flu death outside of Mexico, and Germany and Austria became latest European nations hit by the disease.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30398682...=MSNToolbar130

[micrologus]

Why do they panic

[semiquaver]

Call for Doctor Who.

[dancer1912]

There are actually 13 cases confirmed now in NZ....disproportionately high for our small population, but they are all high school pupils from the same group that went to Mexico on a firld trip.
Link if you are interested in the current situation in NZ....
http://tvnz.co.nz/national-news/susp...se-104-2691146

[Mischa]

Experts say, that the diagnosis of A/H1N1 is rather difficult and can not be achieved in Mexico. Hence the confirmation of A/H1N1 as cause of death of the first 159 had to be tested in Canadian labs. After that the numbers broke down to 26 infections and seven deads.

Ergo the virus is said to be probably highly contagious, but not more dangerous than a "regular" flu. The expert's calculation is:

suspected cases so far: 2.500
estimated number of unknown cases: 10 times more
confirmed A/H1N1 deads: 7
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--> death toll smaller than in a usual flu epedemia

Who knows. Let's hope. I'm back to financial crisis, another issue I don't have the faintest clue about.

[Philidor]

So 7 dead from c. 25,000 infections?

= mortality rate of 0.028

= very low (c. 0.1% for "normal" flu)

I suspect it's hard or impossible to discover exactly what's happening in Mexico.

How are the conspiracy theorists doing - have you checked? Was the strain manufactured by US government officials sympathetic to gun control liberals who wish to make NRA members sneeze so they can't shoot straight?

[Mischa]

So 7 dead from c. 25,000 infections?

Well, seven confirmed A/H1N1 deads of 25.000 suspected cases. And that's just what some institutes claim. But nevertheless things can change pretty quickly, the prognosis of EU health officials is less optimistic.

[Héctor]

"All traditional cultures keep their babies next to their bodies constantly, day and night. All developed societies separate mother and baby - the higher the culture, the more radical the separation. So the screaming of babies and infants is a subject for discussion in all developed societies. In the Middle Ages more than half of the population died because of the plague. The Black Death raged across Christian Europe from the 14th to the middle of the 17th centuries. I view this epidemic as a crisis - and since so many people died, it has to be understood as the eruption of a mass psychosis. My psycho- or rather socio-somatic model is psycho-neuro-immunology: neither a bacterium nor a virus is the core problem, but rather the people within a society who have been shaken by a crisis. If this crisis lasts too long, is too severe or too traumatic, the immune system of the population is slowly weakened and finally collapses. The people become vulnerable to illnesses and finally to death. This model is valid for any epidemic and can serve as a key for a new understanding of history. In my book I describe the various levels of the crisis in the Middle Ages. On the one hand the Church becomes embroiled in power struggles with secular leaders, the Kaisers (emperors), and thus loses its trustworthiness and the ability to provide spiritual support for the people. After the High Middle Ages, after a long period of expansion in the 12th and 13th centuries, Europe is shaken by a whole series of social and economic crises in the 14th and 15th centuries. For example, there was famine in the western Occident just before the beginning of the plague period so that population growth ceased. But I mainly show how society of the Middle Ages descends into delusion during the period of the Black Death - through the inquisitions of the church, the witch trials and the widespread belief in the devil. Luther, for example, gave sermons on how he held discussions with the devil every night and insulted him. No-one would have suggested that Luther was mad - this was quite normal for that period. Just as "normal" was the fact that men accused women of being witches. Hundreds of thousands of women were burnt at the stake in the 16th and 17th centuries. Europe lost its sense of reality and sank into mass delusion. From the point of view of depth psychology the following holds: wherever a psychosis emerges, there must have been a disturbance in the earliest childhood of the person or society affected. What happened in Europe before the outbreak of the plague? For thousands of years, in all higher cultures, mothers have been separated from their babies during the day. But one or two hundred years before the outbreak of the Black Death the priests in the churches began to preach that a mother was no longer allowed to sleep in the same bed as her baby at night. This prohibition was explained with the risk that she could crush her baby. The infants had thus lost their last chance of experiencing an extended period of uninterrupted body contact with their mothers, i.e. during the night. The cradle was invented at this point ..."


Franz Renggli, The Plague as a Mass-Psychosis in the Middle Ages. History of the Early Mother-Child Relationship. Rasch und Röhring, Hamburg, 1992.

[Philidor]

But one or two hundred years before the outbreak of the Black Death the priests in the churches began to preach that a mother was no longer allowed to sleep in the same bed as her baby at night.

Fascinating. Do you know why the priests gave that instruction? This is particularly interesting for the British, who traditionally hate their children:

• insisting on the legal right to assault them
• sending them - those from rich families - to residential "private schools" (prisons) age 7
• refusing them entry to pubs
• giving working class adolescents 'short sharp shocks' in residential "reform schools" (prisons) run by sadists, psychopaths and sexual perverts

It's striking for an English person to visit a Mediterranean country, say France, Italy or Spain. Each evening in Summer you see extended families - mother, father, children, grandparents, aunts etc - walking together, taking the sun, talking, laughing, arguing. It's a scene you hardly ever see in Britain. But pop into a British supermarket and it's usually possible to witness a parent shouting at, threatening with assault, or actually assaulting, their child. Most odd. Is it just the British or do other Northern European races hate their children?

I've always assumed that British child-hatred goes back to the need to prepare children to serve industry and empire. They must be brutalised to fit into, serve, be loyal to, make a profit for, a brutal system. But that doesn't explain why the 12th century Christian hierarchy should wish to brutalise infants. What purpose did it serve?