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[Philidor]

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Dutch added: 13/06/09

[micrologus]

Who is "Test-Account"

[micrologus]

Originally Posted by Philidor

This forum currently is available for discussion in French and German.

And Dutch

[Philidor]

Originally Posted by micrologus

And Dutch

Fantastisch!

Here's test-account. He's rather gooi but very vriendschappelijk.

[micrologus]

Originally Posted by Philidor

Fantastisch!

Here's test-account. He's rather gooi but very vriendschappelijk.

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[Mischa]

Two things to consider, Phil: (besides that this won't work ) for people like me, who use to orientate via "Latest Post"-section, it will be totally confusing to read this Babylonic mixture from English, French, German etc... It will give new members a horrible time to make their way through the forum's structure...

[Philidor]

Crikey I hadn't thought of that. I'm a Dummkopf. I'll try and find a way round it....maybe a double search facility, one of which excludes this forum. I'll check to see how SkyscaperCity handle it. They're wildly successful so there's definitely a way round it. Thanks mate!

[micrologus]

Originally Posted by Mischa

Two things to consider, Phil: (besides that this won't work ) for people like me, who use to orientate via "Latest Post"-section, it will be totally confusing to read these Babylonic mixture from English, French, German etc... It will give new members a horrible time to make their way through the forum's structure...

[Philidor]

I'm not going to do anything about the "Babel-Search" problem until it becomes one. This forum may well take months to become active. I'll wait until search results are a muli-lingual disaster of Serbo-Croat, Esperanto and Martiniquan French Creole before finding a solution.

[Çiğdem Kızılkaya]

"I'll wait until search results are a muli-lingual disaster of Serbo-Croat, Esperanto and Martiniquan French Creole before finding a solution".

But how about this )
When those who translate from other languages to Turkish check a dictionary, they see the same Turkish word for the corresponding foreign words that have small differences in meaning. At first, this may seem as an inadequacy. However, it is not, because the languages aforementioned are based on
learning the static meanings of the words, while Turkish is based on finding out these meanings, that is to say, based on dynamic explanation. In Turkish, positions of the words in a sentence define the meanings, not their meanings in a dictionary. At this point, one can even argue that dictionaries contain only necessary Turkish words as a reference and Turkish contain countless number of words.

When you learn how to make a word plural or how to change the mood/tense of a verb in Turkish, it means that you will know plural forms of the words that were forgotten 300 years ago, or moods/tenses of the verbs yet unknown and that will enter into Turkish language in 5 years. This is the same as when you learn how to solve an equation with two unknowns: you learn to
solve not only equations where x = 6 and y = 23, but all equations with the same polynomial degree. However, for example, in English, "do" becomes "did" whereas "go" changes to "went." It is the same for the plural suffixes: "foot" becomes "feet", "boot" changes to "boots" not to "beet." There is no
logic or rule behind this; you have to memorize them.

In Turkish, however, you need to learn the dynamic rules instead of
memorizing the static words. There is almost no exception. There are some minor exceptions such as the fruit name for apple turned to "elma" although it should have been "alma" because of the vowel harmony rule in Turkish. Rules are so certain and powerful that it is almost hard to believe that inventors of Turkish are Turks.